
“Tell me Simpson, if an opportunity arose for taking a small shortcut, you wouldn’t be averse to taking it, would you?” – C.M. Burns
“Uhh, not as such.” – Homer Simpson
“Neither would I. I’ve always felt that there’s far too much hysteria these days about so-called ‘cheating’.” – C.M. Burns
“Yes, a lot of . . . hysteria.” – Homer Simpson
“Mmm-hmm, if you can take advantage of a situation in some way, it’s your duty as an American to do it. Why should the race always be to the swift, or the jumble to the quick witted? Should they be allowed to win merely because of the gifts God gave them? Well, I say cheating is the gift man gives himself.” – C.M. Burns
“Mr. Burns, I insist that we cheat.” – Homer Simpson
“Excellent.” – C.M. Burns
In an attempt to fill the summer with love, hate and pointless Simpsons commentary we at the Dead Homer Society are going to spend some time overthinking Season 8. Why Season 8? Because Season 8 is when The Simpsons really began to deteriorate into Zombie Simpsons. That’s why. Because we’re cutting edge and ultra-modern we’re using a newfangled, information-superhighway fad called a “chatroom” to conduct our conversation. This text has been edited for clarity and spelling (especially on “derrick”).
Today’s episode is 812, “Mountain of Madness“, yesterday’s was 809 “El Viaje Misterioso de Nuestro Homer“.
Charlie Sweatpants: Okay, so Mountain of Madness.
This was a good one to pair with the insanity peppers one, both of them have long and dull “action” sequences, but the stuff out side of that is pretty good.
Dave: It’s better than King of the Hill.
Both the show and the episode.
Charlie Sweatpants: Hmmm, clearly better than the episode or close?
Mad Jon: This episode had a lot of potential, but so did Drew Henson, and we saw what happened there
Charlie Sweatpants: Hey, the Cowboys and the Yankees have money to burn.
Mad Jon: But my time is precious.
Dave: If, at gunpoint, I had to watch a Homer-related mountain-themed episode, Mountain of Madness would get my vote
Charlie Sweatpants: So, close then?
Mad Jon: I like the Powersauce one better
Dave: Not for me, no
Charlie Sweatpants: I’d put them pretty close together, and while I think I probably watch Powersauce more often it’s not by much.
Mad Jon: This becomes more painfully boring as the episode goes on. By the end of the second act I am looking for a reason to get up. After the commercial there is the snowman fight and the rocket house and even those aren’t that great.
When Smithers hooks up with the kids I have to force myself not to turn it off.
Charlie Sweatpants: Yeah, except for Lenny’s line about “something’s wrong with it’s brakes” the rocket house is pretty lame.
The Smithers thing always strikes me as weird. Like, we really needed that to get them to the cabin?
Mad Jon: Except for the watch with the minute hand
12:80
Charlie Sweatpants: Oh, I like it once it gets going, but it just strikes me as weird and improbable when they decide to walk together. Very TV-y.
Dave: It is very TV-y
Mad Jon: The episode starts off so well, with the fire drill and all.
And mount useful is a good idea, but kind of dies.
Charlie Sweatpants: I have a complaint about the way the fire drill starts though, Burns’ little button board has four things on it, the bottom of which is the fire drill, but then he reads them all off aloud. That always struck me as something that was trying to stretch for time. That’s the kind of thing that used to take .5 seconds and now it’s more like ten times that.
Mad Jon: And the whole thing starts with them being at work, which as you know is my biggest peeve with Zombie episodes.
I didn’t say it was flawless, but it has potential
Charlie Sweatpants: Oh, the actual fire drill is pretty good, especially when Homer barricades the door on his way out. I’d expect nothing less from a place that has a designated station wide nap time.
I just mentioned the button because it struck me as something that, even a season before, would’ve gone much faster.
Mad Jon: I agree with your logic. Which brings me too the “your ideas are intriguing to me..” line.
Charlie Sweatpants: I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
Mad Jon: Heh, I spelled intriguing right but used the wrong form of “to”
Dave: Awesome line.
Charlie Sweatpants: Blame the vodka, homophone indistinction is one of its known side effects.
Mad Jon: Which means I should blame you, sir. Blame you and thank you.
Dave: (Among other things.)
Charlie Sweatpants: Still working on that housewarming gift?
Mad Jon: I’m getting there. I actually have to work now.
Dave: Slave to corporate America, you.
Charlie Sweatpants: Anyway, once Burns and Homer get to the cabin this one really goes downhill (no pun).
Mad Jon: Oh yeah. But I like the line about the good sit. Its not that funny, but I like it as it’s pretty true.
Charlie Sweatpants: Burns goes crazy, Homer hallucinates, they have to keep using the horns of surprise every time they cause another clock eating “avalanche”.
Dave: The cabin stuff goes on forever.
Mad Jon: Yeah, pretty boring.
Charlie Sweatpants: Burns monologue about cheating being the gift man gives himself is one for the ages though.
It’s once they finish cheating that things go to shit.
Dave: Lesson learned: always cheat
and never stop.
Mad Jon: Oh yeah ” That worked.. so.. well..” I use that line all the time too.
Charlie Sweatpants: Oh and speaking of TV-y moments, why the hell does Smithers have the stopwatch at the end and say “It’s a new record, sir”?
I don’t think it was a parody of something specific, so it just seems weird.
Mad Jon: I don’t know, I usually turn it off after the guy calls out for Ranger McFadden.
Sometimes I turn it off before then
Charlie Sweatpants: Then you’re missing the part where the other ranger humors the children before telling everyone to put on their corpse handling gloves.
Mad Jon: Not that funny
Charlie Sweatpants: Disagree.
Mad Jon: Cute
Funnier than most of the episode, but not that funny
Dave: I think that bit’s decently funny
Charlie Sweatpants: Pre-arrival at the cabin, any other parts that struck you as particularly weak?
Mad Jon: Lenny and Carl fighting, I’m mixed on that…
Charlie Sweatpants: Yeah, it just kinda comes out of left field.
Although, I love the part when they get made teammates and Carl can’t conceal his disappointment.
Dave: And the look on Lenny’s face…
Charlie Sweatpants: Although, I’ll say that this is foreshadowing of the weird direction Lenny and Carl took once Zombie Simpsons really got going.
Mad Jon: I see what you mean.
Like mount Carlmore
Charlie Sweatpants: When the show was in it’s prime they were nothing but drinking buddies and co-workers, then they became this weird, non-homoerotic couple.
Good fuck, what’s Mount Carlmore?
Dave: Yeah, the whole Zombie Simpsons Carl and Lenny love/hate thing is super weird
Along with their implied gay relationship
Mad Jon: I couldn’t even tell you what episode its from, but its a zombie throwaway joke when Homer and Lenny go to work on an oil derrick for some reason
Charlie Sweatpants: I just looked it up, it was Season 13.
Mad Jon: There you go
Charlie Sweatpants: That’s about where I lost interest, so it wouldn’t surprise me if I’ve either a) never seen it or b) only seen it once and blacked it out as a self defense mechanism.
Mad Jon: Like being abused by the ice cream man when you were a kid?
Charlie Sweatpants: But Carl’s disappointment here is funny because we don’t know about any of that crap yet. It’s just that he secretly loathes one of his friends.
Dave: Right. As a one off instance it works
Mad Jon: Fair enough
Charlie Sweatpants: He wasn’t the ice cream man, he was the Swanson man.
Dave: Is that better or worse?
Mad Jon: The Swanson’s man has a wider variety of freezer goods, so… better?
Charlie Sweatpants: Swanson man’s got a wider selection, if you’re going to put out, make it count.
Mad Jon: Great minds think alike
Charlie Sweatpants: Oh fuck, I’m kinda embarrassed we typed that at the same time.
Dave: Saving that quote for posterity.
Charlie Sweatpants: Were you on the same Swanson route as me when we were kids? Did Tom touch you too? He told me I was special.
See, this is why Zombie Simpsons is bad, you start getting into bad Simpsons and next thing you know you’re talking about child molestation.
Mad Jon: Even worse, your own molestation experiences. With an ice cream and bulk frozen food vendor.
A commissioned one at that
Dave: We didn’t have a bulk frozen food vendor growing up. I feel kinda left out.
Charlie Sweatpants: I’m just saying it’s a slippery slope from a) Carl and Lenny being funny to b) Carl and Lenny not being funny to c) repressed trauma.
Dave: Well said.
Mad Jon: d) letting Lenny and Carl figure it out for themselves
I think that’s what Marge says a few seasons from now
Dave: I have the number for a good psychiatrist if you have trouble falling asleep later.
Charlie Sweatpants: But getting back to the good parts of this episode . . .
Smokey the Bear cracks my ass up.
Dave: Yep!
Mad Jon: Yeah that was pretty good. “Mom can I go play outside, away from the bear?”
Charlie Sweatpants: The video with John Muir always gets me too. I’ve sat in some dumb park buildings watching some lame ass filmstrips in my time and that’s exactly what they’re like.
Mad Jon: That’s what his name is? I could never understand the announcer. And yes, it was dead on.
Dave: Did Tom chaperone those trips?
Charlie Sweatpants: Probably not, Catholic grade school, the priests want to keep the competition away.
Dave: Greedy bastards.
Mad Jon: You’re the king Charlie
You’re the King
Charlie Sweatpants: Fuck, we’re talking about child molestation again, aren’t we?
Mad Jon: You are
But yes, we are too I guess
again
Dave: I apologize for instigating
Charlie Sweatpants: Nobody’s blaming you.
I blame this on teamwork.
Dave: Go team
Good effort
Charlie Sweatpants: Okay, without getting back on molestation, any other favorite/despised parts of this one?
Mad Jon: Nah, like usual I finished my important points too early. I gotta work on the foreplay a bit
Dave: The guy batting off co-workers with a fire extinguisher is inspired
Mad Jon: Oh yeah, that’s funny
“outta my way!”
Dave: And the photo Homer chooses to save
“Olde Tyme Photos”
Charlie Sweatpants: Yeah, “Homer Defined” notwithstanding, the whole fire drill is pretty good.
Mad Jon: The popcorn noise
Dave: Popcorn noise?
Mad Jon: “All right Popcorns done!”
Dave: Oh right
Mad Jon: Then Homer corrects them, in a pretty funny way, and so on
Charlie Sweatpants: Okay, so rating time.
Dave: I vote middle-lowish again
Charlie Sweatpants: I’ve got this one about on par with “El Viaje Misterioso de Nuestro Homer”, it’s got a lot of down time, but the jokes that aren’t in the down time are pretty good.
Mad Jon: Cream of the crop of bad season 8 episodes. Or last in class of average ones, ladies choice.
Charlie Sweatpants: Yes, good discussion again.
Mad Jon: Now that we’ve reviewed plenty from this season the ranking part pretty much does it self.
Dave: Yeah, we’re getting good at this
Charlie Sweatpants: Well, it takes awhile at any new endeavor before you learn how to slack off and get it “done” with a lot less effort.
Dave: Like college
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